#1 2008-08-15 10:16:20
How to use Super for Sansa Fuze?
Hello, I'm a new user of this forum and I hope I'm not being rude by asking for some specific help.
The Sansa mp3 players need a Sansa Multimedia Converter to add video. I have the Sansa Fuze. However, the SMC is really bad. The SMC is making my audio and video out-of sync so I'm trying to ditch it. Has anyone successfully converted videos with Super and put it directly on the player? I did an analysis of a SMC video file with super with these results:
General #0
Format : AVI Format/Info :
Audio Video Interleave
Format/Family : RIFF
File size : 20.8 MiB
PlayTime : 3mn 33s
Bit rate : 819 Kbps
StreamSize : 16.5 MiB
Writing application : InterVideo
Video #0
Codec : DivX 5
Codec/Family : MPEG-4V
Codec settings, Packet bitstream : No
PlayTime : 3mn 33s
Bit rate : 41 Kbps
Width : 224 pixels
Height : 176 pixels
Display Aspect ratio : 1.273
Frame rate : 20.000 fps Resolution : 32 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.052
StreamSize : 1.05 MiB
Audio #0 Codec :
MPEG-1 Audio layer 3
PlayTime : 3mn 33s
Bit rate mode : CBR
Bit rate : 128 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits
StreamSize : 3.26 MiB
Writing library : Xing (new)
So far I have tried
Output Container: Avi;
Output Codecs: Mpeg, DivX, MS-Mpeg4-v1;
Output Audio: mp3;
FFmpeg
Res: 224x176;
FPS: 20;
Bitrate(Video): 624, 819
Sampling Feq: 44.1khz;
2 Channels;
Bitrate (Audio): 128
And left everything else on default settings.
The closest I got was with Avi, DivX, mp3, 819 Bitrate, and then I chose DvX50 in the popup screen when it asked. The output video file had these settings and didn't work on the Fuze.
General #0
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
Format/Family : RIFF
File size : 9.58 MiB
StreamSize : 303 KiB
Video #0
Codec : DivX 5
Codec/Family : MPEG-4V
Codec profile : Simple Profile/Level 1
Codec settings, Packet bitstream : No
Codec settings, BVOP : No
Codec settings, QPel : No
Codec settings,
GMC : 0
Codec settings,
Matrix : Default
Width : 224 pixels
Height : 176 pixels
Display Aspect ratio : 1.273
Frame rate : 20.000 fps
Resolution : 8 bits
Chroma : 4:2:0
Interlacement : Progressive
StreamSize : 6.03 MiB
Audio #0
Codec : MPEG-1 Audio layer 3
Codec profile : Joint stereo
Bit rate mode : CBR
Bit rate : 128 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits
StreamSize : 3.26 MiB
Writing library : LAME3.93U
Coherency/PlayTime : 213525
So my stream sizes are different for both General and Video, under Video/ Codec Profile: the new file has Simple Profile, and the new video resolution was 8 Bits vs the old 32 bits. There are also some other differences, but I'm not experienced enough to understand them. Can anyone here help me out? Thanks for reading this long post
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#2 2008-10-01 00:01:14
Re: How to use Super for Sansa Fuze?
Hi,
Just bought an old E280v2 myself and have been playing with SUPER. I think the issue is that SUPER doesn't use the OpenDML container format. If this feature can be added in the future, I think SUPER can be used with the various Sansa players.
Here's the GSpot output from an AVI that SMC outputted:
--- Container Information ---
Base Type (e.g "AVI"): AVI(.AVI)
Subtype (e.g "OpenDML"): OpenDML (AVI v2.0),
Interleave (in ms): 100
Preload (in ms):
Audio alignment("split across interleaves"): Split
Total System Bitrate (kbps): 0
Bytes Missing (if any): 0
Number of Audio Streams: 1
--- Video Information ---
Video Codec Type(e.g. "DIV3"): DX50
Video Codec Name(e.g. "DivX 3, Low-Motion"): DivX 5.x/6.x
Video Codec Status(e.g. "Codec Is Installed"): Codec(s) are Installed
Duration (hh:mm:ss): 4:00.200
Frame Count: 4804
Frame Width (pixels): 224
Frame Height (pixels): 176
Storage Aspect Ratio("SAR")" 1.273
Pixel Aspect Ratio ("PAR"): 1.000
Display Aspect Ratio ("DAR"): 1.273
Fields Per Second:
Frames Per Second: 20.000
Pics Per Second: 20.000
Video Bitrate (kbps): 682
MPEG-4 ("MPEG-4" or ""): MPEG-4
B-VOP ("B-VOP" or ""):
QPel ("QPel" or ""):
GMC ("GMC" or ""):
NVOP ("NVOP" or ""):
H264 ("H264" or ""):
Quality Factor (bits/pixel)/frame: 0.865"
MPEG-2 ("MPEG-2" or ""):
Interlaced ("I/L" or ""):
Progressive ("Prog" or ""):
Top Frame First ("TFF" or ""):
Bottom Frame First ("BFF" or ""):
3:2 Pulldown ("3:2" or ""):
Picture-per-field ("PPF" or ""):
--- Aspect Ratio Related ---
Broadcast standard: "PAL" (else blank)
Broadcast standard: "NTSC" (else blank)
src:"VCD", "SVCD", "CVD", or "DVD (else blank):
Instructions to convert to VCD, first part:
Instructions to convert to VCD, second part:
Instructions to convert to SVCD, first part:
Instructions to convert to SVCD, second part:
Instructions to convert to CVD, first part:
Instructions to convert to CVD, second part:
Instructions to convert to DVD, first part:
Instructions to convert to DVD, second part:
Instructions to convert to AVI, first part:
Instructions to convert to AVI, second part:
--- Audio Information ---
MPEG Stream ID (e.g. "0xbd"):
MPEG VOB file Substream(e.g. "0x80"):
Audio Codec (e.g. "AC3"): 0x0055 MPEG-1 Layer 3
Audio Codec Status (e.g. "Codec Is Installed"): Codec(s) are Installed
Audio Sample Rate (Hz): 44100
Audio Bitrate(kbps): 128
Audio Bitrate Type ("CBR" or "VBR"): CBR
Audio Channel Count (e.g. "2" for stereo): 2
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#3 2008-10-01 14:02:31
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Re: How to use Super for Sansa Fuze?
mfruit wrote:
I think the issue is that SUPER doesn't use the OpenDML container format.
v2008.build.33 renders AVI OpenDML whether using MEncoder or FFmpeg
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#4 2008-10-01 23:39:17
Re: How to use Super for Sansa Fuze?
Hi. Do I need to do anything to make SUPER output in OpenDML? I just tried v2008.build 33 with FFmpeg and it used an AVI 1.0 container.
Thanks.
GSpot v2.70a output:
--- Container Information ---
Base Type (e.g "AVI"): AVI(.AVI)
Subtype (e.g "OpenDML"): AVI v1.0,
Interleave (in ms): 50
Preload (in ms): 26
Audio alignment("split across interleaves"): Aligned
Total System Bitrate (kbps): 0
Bytes Missing (if any): 0
Number of Audio Streams: 1
--- Video Information ---
Video Codec Type(e.g. "DIV3"): DX50
Video Codec Name(e.g. "DivX 3, Low-Motion"): DivX 5.x/6.x
Video Codec Status(e.g. "Codec Is Installed"): Codec(s) are Installed
Duration (hh:mm:ss): 4:00.300
Frame Count: 4806
Frame Width (pixels): 224
Frame Height (pixels): 176
Storage Aspect Ratio("SAR")" 1.273
Pixel Aspect Ratio ("PAR"): 1.057
Display Aspect Ratio ("DAR"): 1.345
Fields Per Second:
Frames Per Second: 20.000
Pics Per Second: 20.000
Video Bitrate (kbps): 550
MPEG-4 ("MPEG-4" or ""): MPEG-4
B-VOP ("B-VOP" or ""):
QPel ("QPel" or ""):
GMC ("GMC" or ""):
NVOP ("NVOP" or ""):
H264 ("H264" or ""):
Quality Factor (bits/pixel)/frame: 0.698"
MPEG-2 ("MPEG-2" or ""):
Interlaced ("I/L" or ""):
Progressive ("Prog" or ""):
Top Frame First ("TFF" or ""):
Bottom Frame First ("BFF" or ""):
3:2 Pulldown ("3:2" or ""):
Picture-per-field ("PPF" or ""):
--- Aspect Ratio Related ---
Broadcast standard: "PAL" (else blank)
Broadcast standard: "NTSC" (else blank)
src:"VCD", "SVCD", "CVD", or "DVD (else blank):
Instructions to convert to VCD, first part:
Instructions to convert to VCD, second part:
Instructions to convert to SVCD, first part:
Instructions to convert to SVCD, second part:
Instructions to convert to CVD, first part:
Instructions to convert to CVD, second part:
Instructions to convert to DVD, first part:
Instructions to convert to DVD, second part:
Instructions to convert to AVI, first part:
Instructions to convert to AVI, second part:
--- Audio Information ---
MPEG Stream ID (e.g. "0xbd"):
MPEG VOB file Substream(e.g. "0x80"):
Audio Codec (e.g. "AC3"): 0x0055 MPEG-1 Layer 3
Audio Codec Status (e.g. "Codec Is Installed"): Codec(s) are Installed
Audio Sample Rate (Hz): 44100
Audio Bitrate(kbps): 128
Audio Bitrate Type ("CBR" or "VBR"): CBR
Audio Channel Count (e.g. "2" for stereo): 2
Last edited by mfruit (2008-10-01 23:39:46)
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