W3Exchange / SWF-Output 6 times longer than WMV-Input , FLV-Output not working

vidstarter · 2008-06-03 00:58:30

Hello and Good Morning from Germany,

Referring to my Nick I am really new on video topics.
I've made a ~2 Min. vid to publish on my website with MSWMM and saved it as WMV-Format.
Beause I like the idea of using a YouTube-alike player I converted it first into SWF-Format, afterwards into FLV. The player is JW_FLV-Player

The SWF is played, but it is looped about 6 times, although there is no explicit command in the payer or in the embedding script telling it.
The FLV is neither loaded nor played at all. One reason might be that I do not know about and what META TAGS to handover to FLV-encoding command.

I am missing a kind of explanation "for dummies", where I can read about the necessity of those meta tags. If there is a kind of handout/online help, please provide.

I want to make sure, that I've worked with SUPER C correctly
-dropping wmv to SUPER
-selecting output container "SWF or FLV (Flash)"
-selecting output video codec "Flash Video"
-pressing encocde

Please give me a hint, what might be the error (beside the one in front of the screen...)

thx
Thomas

The Settings (I do not know whether it is needed or not)
1. SUPER C Settings:
[Encoder]
Format=22
VidCodec=0
AudCodec=1
Encoder=0
VidBitr=9
AudBitr=3
VidScaleSize=9
MoreScaleSize=0
CustVWid=320
CustVHght=240
Cust1VWid=368
Cust1VHght=208
Cust2VWid=416
Cust2VHght=176
VidAspect=2
VidFPS=9
MoreFPS=0
Custfps=8
Cust1fps=16
Cust2fps=20
AudSample=1
AudChanl=1
VidDisable=0
AudDisable=0
VidCopy=0
AudCopy=0
Vidhq=1
Vidtq=0
Vidfasp=0
AudioSampleReference=1
AutoAudience=0
Target=0
TStarget=0
Theme=5
OutPutFolder=K:\vid\
SourceFolder=z:\
DSlogo=0
DSlogoMessg=*eRightSoft*
DSlogoFont=Vivaldi
DSlogoSize=28
DSlogoColor=10354879
DSlogoHlColor=16240383
DSlogoPos=4
DSJoinMux=1
DSMotion=-1
DSsmUD=12
DSfmUD=69
DSFH=0
DSFV=0
DSRevrs=0
DSTurning=-1
DSinvY=0
DSinvU=0
DSinvV=0
DSBW=0
DSFI=0
DSFO=0
DSFIsec=4
DSFOsec=03
DSInf=0
VidDeinterlace=0
BF=0
H264Stream=0
BFrames=2
EncodeDuration=0
ClosedGOP=0
GOPAuto=0
ManualGOP=15
AdjustVolume=1
EncodeVolume=6
SnapShotAt=4.3
VideoOffsetSec=3
EncDurationFor=10
CropTop=32
CropRight=0
CropButtom=32
CropLeft=0
PadColor=4670008
PadTop=32
PadRight=0
PadButtom=32
PadLeft=0
H264profile=0
H264level=1
FLVTag=
[RealProducer]
Path=C:\PROGRA~1\
Audience=0
EncodeProfile=1321
[GeneralOptions]
ShowHints=0
ShowWarnings=0
ShowCreditScreen=1
AlwaysOnTop=1
AnalyzeON=0
AviSynthON=1
PSPcnt=0
VOBcnt=10
SameSrcFolder=0
UnderScoreON=0
SameDateTimeON=0
LowerCaseON=0
[Player]
Brightness=0
Contrast=9
Hue=9
Saturation=9
FullScreen=0
Aspect43=0
Aspect169=0
Tiles=0
PlaySlow=0
PlayFast=0
Deinterlace=0
Flip=0
Mirror=0
TurnRight=0
TurnLeft=0
ShowLog=0

2. The Input File
SUPER © - Multimedia Analysis Box (by http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net )
Analyzing the source file test_0003_080531.wmv

General #0
Complete name : .... Videos\test_0003_080531.wmv
Format : Windows Media
File size : 12.2 MiB
PlayTime : 2mn 30s
Bit rate mode : VBR
Bit rate : 678 Kbps
BitRate_Maximum : 1544 Kbps
Movie name : test
Encoded date : UTC 2008-05-31 15:02:58.328
Application : Windows Movie Maker 2.1.4026.0

Video #0
Codec : WMV3
Codec/Info : Windows Media Video 9
Codec description : Windows Media Video 9 -
PlayTime : 2mn 30s
Bit rate mode : VBR
Bit rate : 514 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 576 pixels
Display Aspect ratio : 5/4
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Standard : PAL
Resolution : 24 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.050
Language : German
DeviceConformanceTemplate : MP@ML

Audio #0
Codec : WMA2
Codec/Info : Windows Media Audio 2
Codec description : Windows Media Audio 9.2 - VBR Quality 75, 44 kHz, stereo 1-pass VBR
Bit rate mode : VBR
Bit rate : 152 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Language : German
DeviceConformanceTemplate : L3

3. The Machine:
AMD Athlon 64, 3200+, 2.01 GHz, 1 GB RAM, >150 GB Free DiskSpace
Windows XP Professional SP2, MSWMM

96crypt_mod · 2008-06-03 05:32:17

SUPER(C) does NOT render any script for internet streaming when encoding FLV or SWF files.
The SWF and FLV files rendered with SUPER(C) can ONLY be web streamed once
they are associated to an adequate html, java, php or ajax.. script.

You'll find a streaming FLV example in the center of the upper web page http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html

http://www.w3exchange.com/p7922-2008-05 … html#p7922

vidstarter · 2008-06-03 06:29:11

96crypt_mod wrote:
SUPER(C) does NOT render any script for internet streaming when encoding FLV or SWF files.

I am aware of this, I probably explanied the wrong way. I meant I converted both files separately in two separate processes, first result was the SWF-, second result the FLV-File. I know that SUPER is not working on implementing scripts.

96crypt_mod wrote:
The SWF and FLV files rendered with SUPER(C) can ONLY be web streamed once they are associated to an adequate html, java, php or ajax.. script.

Understood. The script used is from here, the player used is from here. The script I refer to is implementted correctly. Unfortunately SWF is running (but in loop) and flv is not.

96crypt_mod wrote:
You'll find a streaming FLV example in the center of the upper web page http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html, http://www.w3exchange.com/p7922-2008-05 … html#p7922

Thank you for the hint, but both are embedded the "classical" adobe way, not via script, which I would prefer. This is not the point.

Still open questions:
Is Super handled correcctly by me?
Are missing (lacking knowledge!) "meta tag" asked during flv conversion the reason for not starting at all?
Is there a written description (online help, whatever document) available online, telling me about those meta tags?
Why is the SWF playing in a loop and the flv not playing at all?

Thank you in advance for you help and patience.

Thomas

96crypt_mod · 2008-06-03 09:03:02

1) whenever you encode any input file to any output format, if you can play it with SUPER(C)
then your encoding was correctly done.
2) the Meta Tag in the FLV has absolutely nothing to do with web streamaing, it is only
a way to personalize your file by adding a tag, your personal tag, a name, a signature, a date or whatever..
3) there are various types of scripts on the net which are beyond our tech support, we will not give any comment about them..

here are some typical working html scripts, change ONLY bold figures, nothing else.

for SWF
<embed src="http://www.yoursevername.com/thefile.SWF" width="640" height="480"
type="application/x-shockwave-flash" swliveconnect="false" menu="false"
pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash"
loop="true"
align="middle"
autostart="true">

for FLV
<OBJECT
<PARAM NAME=movie>
<PARAM NAME=quality VALUE=high>
<EMBED src="http://www.yoursevername.com/flvplayer.swf?file=http://www.yoursevername.com/thefile.FLV" quality=high bgcolor=#dddddd
WIDTH=700 HEIGHT=500 TYPE="application/x-shockwave-flash"
PLUGINSPAGE="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash">
</EMBED>
</OBJECT>

you can download the player in here (rightclick and save) http://www.erightsoft.com/tmp/flvplayer.swf

for RM
<OBJECT ID="RVOCX" CLASSID="clsid:CFCDAA03-8BE4-11cf-B84B-0020AFBBCCFA" WIDTH="320" HEIGHT="240">
<PARAM NAME="SRC" VALUE="myfile.rm">
<PARAM NAME="CONTROLS" VALUE="ImageWindow">
<PARAM NAME="CONSOLE" VALUE="one">
<PARAM NAME="AUTOSTART" VALUE="true"><EMBED SRC="myfile.rm" WIDTH="320" HEIGHT="240" NOJAVA="true" CONTROLS="ImageWindow"
CONSOLE="one" AUTOSTART="true" type="audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin">
</OBJECT>

for AVI or WMV
<OBJECT ID="WMPlay" width="480" height="410" classid="CLSID:6BF52A52-394A-11d3-B153-00C04F79FAA6" codebase="http://activex.microsoft.com/activex/controls/mplayer/en/nsmp2inf.cab#Version=5,1,52,701" standby="Loading Microsoft Windows Media Player components..." type="application/x-oleobject">
<PARAM name="URL" value="http://www.yoursevername.com/thefile.AVI (or) .WMV">
<PARAM name="AllowChangeDisplaySize" value="True">
<PARAM NAME=ShowControls VALUE=1>
<PARAM NAME=ShowDisplay VALUE=1>
<PARAM NAME=ShowStatusBar VALUE=1>
<PARAM NAME=AutoStart VALUE=TRUE>
<PARAM NAME=InvokeURLS Value=False>
<param name="Volume" value="100">
<embed name="WMplay" width="640" height="480" type="application/x-mplayer2" pluginspage="http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/Downloads/Contents/Products/MediaPlayer/" src="http://www.yoursevername.com/thefile.AVI (or) .WMV" autostart=1 showcontrols=1 showstatusbar=1>
</embed>
</object>

you can find on google some other scripts to stream MP4 or MOV file rendered by SUPER(C)

#1 2008-06-03 00:58:30

SWF-Output 6 times longer than WMV-Input , FLV-Output not working

#2 2008-06-03 05:32:17

Re: SWF-Output 6 times longer than WMV-Input , FLV-Output not working

#3 2008-06-03 06:29:11

Re: SWF-Output 6 times longer than WMV-Input , FLV-Output not working

96crypt_mod wrote:

96crypt_mod wrote:

96crypt_mod wrote:

#4 2008-06-03 09:03:02

Re: SWF-Output 6 times longer than WMV-Input , FLV-Output not working

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